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PostSubject: Should they include foreigners again?   Thu Dec 24, 2009 7:43 pm

When Siren - Blood Curse was released, I liked the idea of introducing a foreign cast among the others in Hanuda, but I was disappointed in the lack of depth regarding about the difference between the two foreign cultures and showing how uncomfortable it can be when meeting an individual that cannot speak your language and behaves differently in terms of social life.

Do you think the developers should introduce a new foreign cast, albeit fewer people, and try to give more depth this time? Or do you think they should avoid bringing them in as it may ruin the game's atmosphere if handled poorly?
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Fri Dec 25, 2009 3:07 pm

I'm not against including any foreign nationalities in the game if the said characters play heavy role on the story. I mean diversity may make the story either interesting or just plain annoying.

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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Fri Dec 25, 2009 5:19 pm

Surreal. Surprised to see you here. Well... as for an answer to the question, I say that "why not". It can be an effective design choice. Just saw "Inglourious Basterds" not too long ago, and the usage of different languages in that movie works great. Some characters don't understand other characters without a translator. Brought depth to the film. In fact, it would have been downright lame if all the characters spoke english and understood each other without problems. Of course it's a stretch to compare the setting of that film directly to the setting of Siren: NT, but hey.
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:32 pm

I could say the same to you AKheon, funny meeting you here too.

I watched Inglorious Basterds too, and I found myself immersed in the scenes where you see other characters conversing with each other in a different language, a language that we don't understand or not entirely fluent with. Maybe Siren could follow this idea?

Howard Wright was an interesting example as you actually see him attempt to speak Japanese to Miyako and Seigo, even though he's not entirely fluent, and spoke in English half of the time. The development between Howard and Miyako was rather well done.

However, Sam meeting Seigo the first time felt a little forced since Seigo quickly responded in English for Sam who couldn't speak Japanese at all, which left little development with two strangers with different cultural backgrounds. Or maybe it's just me?

I don't know, maybe I'm going overboard with this? Neutral
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Fri Dec 25, 2009 10:49 pm

Although I watched that playthrough of yours through Siren: NT, I don't think I'm in an able position to judge this part of the game. I felt like the cultural difference theme was something interesting but not in an overwhelmingly important role during the game... that's it. But I suppose it's a question that can't be completely ignored as long as the serie retains its japanise roots.
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Fri Dec 25, 2009 11:01 pm

Of course, I feel that the Siren series should remain in their cultural area. I can't imagine Siren taking place outside Japan, it just wouldn't feel right at all.

Oh well...I guess it's a matter whether the cultural difference should be a part of the plot or an interesting side-story, if the cultural difference indeed does appear in the next game, who knows?
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Sun Dec 27, 2009 9:03 am

Surrealgamer wrote:
When Siren - Blood Curse was released, I liked the idea of introducing a foreign cast among the others in Hanuda, but I was disappointed in the lack of depth regarding about the difference between the two foreign cultures and showing how uncomfortable it can be when meeting an individual that cannot speak your language and behaves differently in terms of social life.


I also was excited how this particular problem would play out, but was disappointed that the story didn't seem to address this or care about it at all.
It's okay if a few characters have a different ethnic background, but in Siren BC, except for Seigo and Miyako there was no other living Japanese person in the game. The balance wasn't right.
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Mon Dec 28, 2009 7:59 am

I just have to say that surrealgamer's walkthroughs have amazed me, and AKheon's vids r also great. But anyways, I do agree that only Seigo and Miyako as the only living Japanese doesn't balance out. I never thought about this topic before so I don't have much to say.
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Thu Dec 31, 2009 12:37 pm

Well, it seems that if done right, a foreign cast in the next Siren is not a bad idea. But I've been thinking, instead of an American cast, what about us British? I'm aware that in the first game there were British voice overs, and it wasn't exactly a masterpiece.

Do you think we could be given a chance, or is it a bad idea after what happened in the first game? Embarassed
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Thu Dec 31, 2009 9:25 pm

Surrealgamer wrote:
Well, it seems that if done right, a foreign cast in the next Siren is not a bad idea. But I've been thinking, instead of an American cast, what about us British? I'm aware that in the first game there were British voice overs, and it wasn't exactly a masterpiece.

Do you think we could be given a chance, or is it a bad idea after what happened in the first game? Embarassed


What happened in the first game wasn't all that much of a disaster to me; the British voice-overs were of course strange to me at first, but then I found that the voices fit each character. I wasn't like the other people who were pulling their hair out every time they heard Yoriko complain (haha ^^; )

As for the foreigners, I would love to see another nationality enter the nightmare! : ) I wouldn't mind different backgrounds because then it would add more diversity and more depth in the game.

If they are going to place the Siren game in a new setting though, I'd pick Cambodia or Thailand (representttt : P )
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Fri Jan 01, 2010 6:08 am

They could inlcude one outlander, maybe a scientist who somehow has a connection to the hanuda incident and saw similarities on Yamijima. He goes to Japan for his own reasons.
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Fri Jan 29, 2010 1:29 am

Im inclined to say yes because it's a really effective plot point. Put yourselves in the characters shoes. You're already in a country far away from your own, where you have little grasp on the culture perhaps and you can't speak much of the native language. THEN you are isolated even more stumbling across this eerie village where your not sure what's going on. It really is a horrible thought but I think there is abit of social commentary there with people from other countries visiting places,sticking to their ignorance and not being aware of customs or appreciating the culture.
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Tue Feb 23, 2010 4:16 am

OMG surreal its you omg i watched all your siren walkthroughs i used it for the first siren Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Wed Apr 21, 2010 8:13 am

i would altogether would want a longer siren game maybe like 40 hours

but i would be excited to play an 80hr siren game i mean imagine the character development and also more room for the concept of having a foreign characters
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PostSubject: Re: Should they include foreigners again?   Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:19 am

I don't see any reason why not, but without a basic premise for the plot, I don't care either way. Would foreigners be relevant? Maybe, maybe not.
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